tisdag, juli 03, 2007

Negerbollar?*

I söndags var jag ute på familjens lantställe och hjälpte min lilla Mamma som brutit foten och därför är kraftigt rörelsehindrad för tillfället. Landet, som ligger på en ö, har ingen affär och alla matvaror måste därmed släpas dit, medelst färja (eller, om man lyckas övertyga systern, hennes båt).

Vid lunch sitter vi fyra till bordet - systern, hennes fästman, lilla Mamma och Yours Truly. Samtalsämnena rör sig mot Sverige, samtalsutvecklingen, invandringen och fördomar.

Systern satt och var upprörd över att det inte är politiskt korrekt att kalla negerbollar för, ja negerbollar.

"Är det inte?" sa Mamma "Vad heter det nu då?"
"Chokladbollar" - säger jag och Fästmannen samtidigt.

"Ja, eller kokosbollar" - fyllde systern i, "men bara om de har kokos på sig. I alla fall tycker jag det är löjligt att det skall vara så inkorrekt att kalla det negerbollar!"

"Hmmm" sa jag. "Jag höll med dig fram till för ett litet tag sedan, då jag läste ett otroligt välskrivet kåseri, skrivet av en nysvensk. Han, för jag tror det var en han, frågade sig varför det blivit sådan t hallabaloo av det här hos svenskarna. "Om det för er nu bara är ett namn på en kaka - och för stora delar av er omvärd är ett förskräckligt förnedrande och negativt laddat ord - varför skall det vara så himla svårt för er att bara byta namn?" tror jag han skrev. OCh då insåg jag plötsligt hur rätt han hade. Det är ju bara respekt, för fan..."

Systern fortsatte argumentera emot, och berättade om hur hon haft den här diskussionen med sina söner - och letat upp receptet i sin gamla kokbok.

"Där stog det minsann negerbollar!" sa hon "Så det är så det HETER, det står så i kokboken!"
"Mmmm... men du vet söstra mi, tiderna förändras. Kommert du ihåg den där gamla ABC-boken vi har hemma, från när mamma och pappa var små?"
"Uh, ja, hur så?"
"På "E" står det:

"E = Endast Kaffern - Vers: Endat Kaffern, Pyttan lill, kissar var och när han vill."

Det måste ju, med det här resonemanget, också vara sant då eller? Det STÅR ju där!"

Jag log, Fästmannen och systern skrattade generat. Vi har tittat i den där boken på jularna och förfasat oss över just den här versen - med dess bifogade bild av lilla Pyttan som förskräckt står och tittar på en jättelik svart man i höftskynke, spjut, näsring och Zulu-sköld**.

Systern gav sig. Ett sista försök av argumentation var att namnet negerboll ju inte är laddat alls. Varken positivt, eller negativt. "Nej, inte för DIG." sa jag, och jag tror helt ärligt att det här är pudelns kärna. För många av oss som har växt upp med negerchokladbollar gjorda på AXA havregryn*** så är namnet inte laddat alls. Så totalt oladdat att det kan vara svårt att förstå hur laddat det kan vara för andra.

Det gäller helt enkelt att sätta sig i någon annans skor - inte alltid det lättaste. Något som faktiskt goes both ways, det skulle eventuellt vara lättare för någon som känner sig stött/sårad/sur av ordet att argumentera om han/hon förstod att ordet som sådant är totalt oladdat - för många av oss. Själv har jag i alla fall förstått, till slut - och argumenterar nu som synes ifrån andra hållet :)

Samtalet avslutades med att vi kom överens om att att vi, för jämställdhetens skull, borde döpa om receptet igen. Med alla nya recept och chokladbollar gjorda även på vit choklad så skulle kanske "Svennebollar" - om de ljusa och "Blattebollar" - om de mörka kännas mer modernt?****
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Hela bilderboken kan beskådas här. Notera även bokstaven N = Nigger, och inte minst vilka litterära giganter med Fröding i spetsen som står bakom hela boken...
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Och förresten, är det någon mer än jag som märkt att AXA inte ens har kvar receptet på chokladbollar på sina paket??? Så laddad är frågan i sig... Tror de på allvar att man köper deras havregryn för att göra gröt på? :)
**** Pleaaaase. Ironi ;)
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156 kommentarer:

  1. Anonym2:37 em

    Q. Qvickheten.
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  2. Anonym5:29 em

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  3. Anonym5:42 em

    Hahahaha du måste skämta med mig!! Har den boken på allvar använts i skolan?

    Tycker ifs svennebollar och blattebollar är helt ok. Så länge man använder båda namnen, då är det ju lika illa åt båda hållen lixom...

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  4. Anonym6:43 em

    *klappar händerna*

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  5. Anonym8:21 em

    Betyder detta att man inte får använda ordet "neger"? Om inte så förstår jag inte vad problemet är med att det heter negerbollar, för det gör det. Punkt. Amerikanarna säger ju "Swedish fish" om såna där röda malaco-godis-fiskar...är det också kränkande? Har vi svenskar missat att vi bir hånade? Näe jag tycker det är urlöjligt, okej om det hette "Negerjävelbollar"...då skulle jag också reagera.

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  6. Anonym9:08 em

    Skrev om det där ordet en gång för länge sen på min blogg. Jag kom fram till att i den som prompt måste slåss för rätten att säga negerboll "... nånstans, längst där inne så finns det en liten förorättad svensk som säger, ´Ni negrer ska inte komma och tala om vad jag får säga och inte´."

    /Mattias

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  7. Yodå, receptet är kvar, iaf det jag köpte för ickegrötsgörarskull (ett eller två ord?).

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  8. Anonym11:41 em

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  9. Anonym11:45 fm

    Jag kan hålla med om att negerbollar är missvisande och kan uppfattas aningen stötande. Jag tycker dock det är skitlarvigt att det kan kallas diskriminering att benämna bakverk så. Om jag vägrar sälja chokladbollarna till ljushyade/heterosexuella/manliga personer är det diskriminering.

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    Jag tvivlar starkt på att just "Pyttans AB och CD-lära" använts som skolbok. Det torde vara en vitssamling a'la Falstaff Fakir och liknande. Sorteras under Hc.03(s) som jag förstår är skönlitteratur/dikt/poesi. Däremot fanns det gott om ignoranta och rasistiska inslag i (andra) uppslags- och läroböcker från samma tid.

    Skall man inte säga något som kan uppfattas stötande av någon får man vara ganska tyst. >6 miljarder människor har ganska olika nivåer av lättstötthet. Kontext och uppsåt är viktiga ingredienser..

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    Jag menar bara att det är i princip omöjligt att göra något som inte kan uppfattas kränkande av någon.

    Tackar för en trevlig blogg!
    /Magnus

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  10. Anonym3:05 em

    Detta får mig att minnas den här tjuvlyssningen från Tjuvlyssnat.se.

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  11. Anonym8:43 em

    Äh jag vääägrar sluta kalla det negerbollar. :P
    Kul inlägg dock. :)

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  12. Anonym10:11 fm

    http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neger

    Det är i regel alla svennar och svennebananer som försvarar sin rätt till att säga negerboll. Var i ligger svårigheten att kalla den för chokladboll?

    Iof trodde jag att den heter gambiaskalle med mjäll...

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  13. Anonym1:19 em

    Semester eller vad händer ;) Underhåll mig :D
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  15. Anonym7:17 em

    hehehe! min fastman ar fran jamaica, vi bor i Santa Monica och ar till Ikea ibland nar min hemlangtan blir for stor. Dom saljer 'choklad bollar' dar. Jag sa at honom att vi kallade dom 'negro balls' hemma.. Han tittade pa mig som att jag vore helt sjuk, och sa: they're not negro balls, they're old negro balls, they've got white hairs! oh well. han ar inte som alla andra. :)

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  17. Anonym4:41 em

    De jag är som mest förbryllad över är ju att negerbollar blev ett stötande ord i och med att vi gick med i EU en gång i tiden, för neger kommer ju ändå från det spanska ordet negro som står för svart. Borde då inte Spanien byta ut sitt negro för det borde ju då klassas som stötande eller? Bara för att Amerikanerna lyckas få det att låta så illa som det gör idag.

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  18. Anonym6:29 em

    fattar inte vf det heter negerbollar.. det e fan inte negarna som har kommmit på själva bakverket!!inte samma sak som att säga swedish fish lr vad fan det heter., ja mena att säga negerbollar så säger man det till varända svart människa på denna planet!! i sådant fall kunde dman säga sudanbollar lr kalla det för något annat namn i afrika!!och neger betyder ju slav.. vem fan vill bli kallad det!!? så sluta kalla det för negerbollar det heter faktis chokladbollar det innehåller fan ingen neger i det.

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  19. Anonym9:45 em

    Haha, klart det heter "negerbollar"! :) Jag sökte just på nätet efter ett recept på negerbollar och se, här hamnade jag! Jag, som är aktiv antirasist, anser att "negerboll" inte är det minsta rasistiskt. Ordet har för de flesta absolut ingenting med mörkhyade människor att göra. Precis som någon upplyst person här ovan skrev, så betyder ju negro svart (inte slav som någon mindre upplyst person trodde), så vad är problemet...?? Snart är det väl rasistiskt att säga "svartsoppa" och "svartsjuk" också. Skärpning...

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  20. Visst står negro för svart. Men ordet ''neger'' som står för slav, varför skulle man då använda ett sånt fult ord till något som är så gott? Plus ja det känns kränkande fast man vet att personen inte menar nåt Plus att i gammal svensk ord bok sen 1912 så står det i sammanhang ''Neger en mäniskoliknande apa som slår på trumer när den är glad'' . Mulat avkomma när en männsika har sex med en neger. Så ja negerboll är kränkande, Men jag förstår att man inte kan kalla den chockladboll eftersom den inte innehåller chocklad den består av kakao varför inte kalla den i kakaoboll, eftersom man inte kan kalla den chocklad boll för att den inte innehåller chocklad kan man vell inte heller kalla den för negerboll eftersom den inte innhåller nån neger! hoppas jag i alla fall

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  21. Anonym1:12 em

    *suck*

    Jag letade efter recept på nätet och råkade hamna här av misstag. Nu kan jag inte låta bli att skriva en kommentar...

    Ni har definitivt en poäng när ni säger att man lätt borde kunna ändra sig och kalla det för Chokladbollar istället.

    MEN

    1. Yttrandefrihet für alle
    2. Löjligt att behöva gå omkring och vara politiskt korrekt hela tiden. Vi lever inte i Fascistlandet, vad jag vet.
    3. Det heter vad man vill, men det är lättast att kalla dem för chokladbollar eller negerbollar så att folk förstår.
    4. Jag som är finländsk borde hötta med näven och svära högt över ert användande av ordet "finne" vad gäller acne, enligt ert resonemang, men det gör jag inte.

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  22. Anonym7:21 em

    Jag som många andra hamnade här för att jag letade recept. Jag var helt enkelt sugen på en av mina favoriter, nämligen negerbollar som jag, liksom många andra tycker är väldigt goda. Kunde inte låta bli att läsa inläggen och kan inte låta bli att fundera. Stötande??? Borde det inte vara hedrande att vi döpt en av svenskarnas favoritkakor till just negerbollar =)

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  23. Anonym6:22 em

    Jag precis som flera här ovan hamnade här när jag letade efter ett recept på negerbollar som man reflexmässigt faktiskt kallar dom !
    Ärligt så tycker jag debatten går till överdrift...det finns väl mer bekymmer i denna värld än att man skall behöva vakta sin tunga och känna sig kriminell varje gång man råkar säga något som kränker än den ena och än den andra.
    Snart får man väl ha med sig ett politiskt korrekt lexikon under armen innan man vågar öppna munnen.
    Negroida rasen är väl en beteckning på mörkhyade människor i Afrika...nigger däremot är väl ett amerikanskt skällsord ?

    Nu skall jag ut i köket och göra negerbollar iaf !

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  24. Anonym4:12 em

    Nonsens, det heter negerbollar.

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  25. Anonym9:29 em

    Chokladboll heter det inte då de inte innehåller choklad, och kokosboll är något helt annat, det är sådana där med kokosskum i.

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  26. Haha helt riktigt!
    Fin blogg.

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  27. Anonym9:44 em

    Såklart heter det Negerboll.
    Förlåt... Neger är ett rasistiskt ord.. Vi får kalla den för invandrarbulle.

    Om nu ordet Neger är så raststiskt, varför accepterar vi då användandet av de spanska namnet som används frekvent.

    Som namnet på vinet svarta katten " Gato Negro ".


    Användantet av ordet"Neger" i det svenska språket genom tiden är inte rasistik.
    Eller Skall vi förbjuda användandet av ordet "sambo" som innan förkortningen av sammanboende var ett grovt nedsättande ord för en man av afrikanskt ursprung likvärdigt med ordet " Nigger "

    När kommer förbuden mot de ord som é rasistiska mót vita?

    Bara vita som kan vara rasistiska mot svarta oavsett vad de vita säger , men de svarta kan säga vad som helst utan att oroa sig för att bli anklagade för rasism.

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